A good example of a deathtrap street bike is the Hyabusa. There's gotta be some good videos on youtube, I didn't look yet

KTM is a very well-known Austrian motorcycle manufacturer, and they are not going out of business. KTM has been recognized all over the world for its off-road motorcycles, sports bikes, and now, their launching of electric street bikes.

When I think of KTM, I think of the 420 dirt bike but I looked at the street bikes at a dealer and they look awesome.

CF Moto ATVs are the real deal. I don't know if they'll ever get popular at this point, but they seem to hold up OK

I am confident this is yet another failed attempt at launching an ATV brand. I am active in the ATV world and have yet to see a Dirt Devil anywhere.

Anyone have any info on the Dirt Devil ATV brand. All I can find is that they were manufactured by BMS Motorsports, which is an ATV powersports manufacturer based in Riverside, California. I don't think they are making them anymore, but not sure.

I was poking and prodding around the Dongfang brand of ATV's since I saw one at our local trail parking lot. Not sure if it is better or worse than any of the other Chinese ATV's.

Here's a list of the models:


DF125AVB: A basic entry-level ATV with a 125cc engine, suitable for beginners or those looking for a smaller ATV for light off-road use.

DF200AVB: A slightly larger ATV with a 200cc engine, offering more power and capability for a variety of off-road activities.

DF250ATV: A mid-size ATV with a 250cc engine, providing more performance and versatility for recreational and light utility use.

DF300STG: A larger and more powerful ATV with a 300cc engine, designed for more demanding off-road applications and heavier workloads.

DF400GT: A 400cc ATV designed for rugged off-road terrain and heavier work tasks, suitable for those needing more power and carrying capacity.

DF500ATV: A powerful ATV with a 500cc engine, capable of handling more challenging off-road conditions and utility tasks.

Most major ATV manufacturers had shifted to producing 4-stroke engines due to environmental regulations and emissions standards.

While some specialized or niche manufacturers might still produce 2-stroke ATVs for certain markets, the majority of mainstream ATV manufacturers had transitioned to 4-stroke engines for their vehicles. 4-stroke engines are generally preferred for their improved fuel efficiency, reduced emissions, and smoother power delivery.

2 strokers are long gone from the big boys...

For Honda, the last year that they produced a 2-stroke ATV was in 1989. The Honda TRX250R, which was a high-performance two-stroke ATV, was produced until 1989. After that, Honda shifted its focus to producing 4-stroke ATV models to comply with evolving environmental regulations and emissions standards.

The last year that Kawasaki produced a 2-stroke ATV was in 2006. The Kawasaki KFX400, which was a sport ATV, utilized a 2-stroke engine and was manufactured until 2006.

Polaris produced its last 2-stroke ATV in the early 2000's. The Polaris Trail Blazer 250 was one of the 2-stroke ATVs produced by Polaris, and its production continued until around 2006.

The last year that Suzuki produced a 2-stroke ATV was in the mid-2000's. The Suzuki QuadSport Z400, which was a sport ATV, featured a 2-stroke engine and was manufactured until around 2008.

Last but not least, the last year that Yamaha produced a 2-stroke ATV was in the mid-2000's. The Yamaha Blaster 200, a popular 2-stroke sport ATV, was produced until around 2006.

I don't see 2 stroke engines making a comeback in 2023 or anytime soon.

CFMoto makes a good variety of models to choose from, so I like that. How about any durability to these things?

Here's a list of CFMoto models. Keep in mind that model availability and names may vary by region and year. Here are some of the CFMoto ATV model names that were available:

CFORCE Series:

CFORCE 400
CFORCE 500
CFORCE 600
CFORCE 800
CFORCE Touring Series:

CFORCE 450S
CFORCE 520
CFORCE 625 Touring
CFORCE 850 Touring
CFORCE X Series:

CFORCE X400
CFORCE X500
CFORCE X520
CFORCE X850

It is a legendary two-stroke first of all. I think it is one of the most iconic high-performance ATVs of its time.

If I had to complain about the TRX250R I would say too stiff on the suspension. The TRX250R was designed for performance and agility so its suspension may be on the stiffer side. This gives the potential for a rougher ride on rough terrain. It is uncomfortable during longer rides.

There is no doubt riding an ATV on the road is dangerous. This is how fools get hurt. It is generally not recommended for several reasons:

• Lack of Safety Features: ATVs are designed for off-road use and typically lack certain safety features required for road use, such as headlights, turn signals, rearview mirrors, and horns. This can make it challenging for other motorists to see and anticipate your movements on the road.
• Limited Stability and Control: ATVs have a higher center of gravity and a wider wheelbase compared to typical road vehicles. This makes them less stable on paved surfaces, especially at higher speeds or when navigating turns. The risk of losing control and being involved in an accident increases when riding an ATV on the road.
• Speed and Visibility: ATVs are generally not designed for high-speed road use. They are built for off-road environments, where the terrain and speeds are different. Riding an ATV on the road exposes you to faster-moving traffic, increasing the risk of accidents due to speed differentials. Additionally, the small size of ATVs can make them less visible to other drivers, further increasing the chances of collisions.
• Traffic Hazards: Roads are designed for vehicles that adhere to specific traffic rules and regulations. ATVs may not have the necessary equipment, such as headlights and turn signals, to signal intentions or navigate traffic effectively. This can lead to confusion among other drivers and create hazardous situations.
• Legal Restrictions: Laws and regulations regarding ATV use on public roads vary by jurisdiction. In many places, it is illegal to ride ATVs on public roads, except in specific cases such as designated off-road trails or private property. Violating these laws can result in fines, penalties, and potential legal consequences.

Let's face it, common sense rules. If you must ride an ATV, it is best to do so in designated off-road areas, trails, or private property where it is legal and safe to ride.

Always wear your safety gear, including a helmet, goggles, gloves, and protective pads when you can. Following proper ATV safety guidelines and respecting local laws and regulations is crucial to minimize the dangers associated with ATV riding.